305 - one of the first batch of Atlanteans showing off the original livery at Borough Boundary with a characteristic, but corroded home made shelter. (Brian Turner) |
Manager Derek Hyde told the Gazette in November 1976 that the all-over cream livery would be “too much of a good thing” on the double deckers and was planning a new livery based on green and cream. The eventual scheme of cream with green roof, top deck windows, narrow band above the lower windows and a broad band on the lower panels was influenced by Southampton Corporation.
The initial batch were deployed in OPO format on routes 7/7A (Bispham Circular) and crew form alongside PD3s on their varied duties including the 5/5A, 6, 11/11A, 11C, 14 and 22/22A.
Brand new 329 in Rigby Road Depot in September 1979. Behind is a Preston Corporation Panther on loan due to vehicle shortages (Brian Turner) |
362 - the last bus seated Atlantean competes for attention with the mayoral car when still nearly new in December 1983 (Brian Turner) |
Finally 363/4 (B363/4UBV) arrived and entered service week ending 22nd September 1984 – only Fylde 75 (B75URN) entered service later than this pair on 1st October as one of only four B-reg Atlanteans (Merseyside 1070 being the other). The story of the last Altanteans is told here. Unusually for the Blackpool fleet they featured high back semi coach seats which reduced the number of seats which could be accommodated. The total capacity was 74, with 45 upstairs and 29 downstairs as the rear facing seats over the rear wheelarches were omitted in favour of luggage pens. The body design featured a single piece upper deck front window and dropped leading edge to the first side window. The livery was modified with cream with green roof and skirt with two lime green bands as illustrated.
The two coach seated Atlanteans 363/4 arrived in this unusual livery. Note the revised front. When not used on private hires they were often used on route 12 (Brian Turner) |
An unusual exchange in 1985 saw 351 and 352 operate with West Yorkshire PTE for a few weeks in exchange for their 6299/300 (PUA299/300W). This was part of the Tramway Centenary events as they carried commemorative liveries for Huddersfield Transport buses and trams respectively. Blackpool numbered them 366/7 and 352 was swapped for 366 at an event at Crich on 9 June and returned on 1st August. 351 and 367 were exchanged between 16 June and 31 July. [Flickr link: 352 in Huddersfield]
Withdrawals and Disposals Part 1
Three Atlanteans were destined for a short life with Blackpool for on 1st October 1986 a fire started in the depot yard on 310 and spread to 335 and 342 with sisters 340 and 362 receiving minor damage as they were shunted out of the way before the fire spread. The disfigured remains were kept in store until they were removed for scrap in June 1987.
Fire damaged Atlanteans 342, 310 and 335 (left to right) stored in the depot prior to disposal (Paul Turner) |
Fylde was purchased by Blackpool in May 1994 and at the time operated 52 Atlanteans including four rebodied as single deckers. 18 were Northern Counties example new to Fylde between 1975 and 1984 plus the sole survivor of three new to Lytham in 1970; 18 were Roe bodied dating from 1970-1973 and acquired by Fylde from Kingston-upon-Hull City Transport between 1986 and 1993; 9 were 1976/7 vintage Northern Counties bodied buses new to Greater Manchester and the last two were a 1965 built Metro Cammell open topper new to Salford and a 1978 built Northern Counties bus new to AA of Ayr. By this time Blackpool had sold 23 of its 64 buses, but attention now turned to replacing the Fylde examples as only six of Fylde’s were younger than Blackpool’s oldest.
Blackpool transferred 322-327 and 364 to Fylde in November 1994 which replaced four of the ex Manchester and two of the ex Hull buses. Also transferred in were 328-330 in March 1995 and 331/4 in April 1996 to cover additional contract work. Blackpool absorbed Fylde in July 1996 and inherited the 46 surviving Atlanteans – and reclaimed the 12 transferred in. The new fleet comprised:
- Single deckers 134-137 (TKU462/5/6/9K)
- Northern Counties coach seated 441-445 (HIL5341/2/5943, NJI5504/5) Northern Counties bus seated 450 (HRN100N), 458 (ATD281J), 465-9 (ONF660/9/73R, SRJ756/7R), 470 (TSD571S), 471-4 (OJI4371-4), 475 (SIB8405), 478/9/81-3 (HRN98/9,101-3N), 495 (RHG95T), 496 (XHG96V) – 465-9 being the new to Manchester buses, 470 was new to AA and 458 to Lytham
- Roe bodied closed toppers 449 (ARH314K), 456 (WRH291J), 459 (ARH301K), 486-493 (MIW8186-8, RIB4089/6590, IIL4291, NIW6492, ARH306K)
- Roe bodied open toppers 452-454/7 (TKH266H, WRH294J, ARH304K, WRH295J) plus open rear balcony 455 (ARH304K)
- Metro Cammell bodied open topper 451 (DBA227C).
- 449, 451-459, 486, 490/1/3 were type PDR1A/1 (451 PDR1/1) rather than the later AN68 type.
- Blue and Cream: 442, 449, 451, 454-456, 458/9, 465/9/70, 473/8/9, 481-3, 486, 488-493
- Two tone blue: 134-137, 443-445, 447, 466/8 and 474
- All-over adverts: 441, 450, 452/3/7, 471/2/5, 495/6 with either blue and cream or green and cream fronts
- BTS Green and Cream: 467 (applied prior to the absorption)
Graph showing the number of Atlantens in the fleet at the start of each year from 1978 to 2009. The fleet had dropped to 41 in 1994, before being more than doubled to 87 by the Fylde take-over. |
331-337 were stored from April 1995, but were back in use by June 1995 as the priority was to replace former Fylde buses. Between October 1996 and April 1997 veterans 449, 451, 456-459, 486/8, 490/1/3 were withdrawn - 488 was the youngest at 25 years old, 451 the oldest at over 31 years. Open toppers 452-4 and the unusual open balcony 455 were retired at the end of the 1998 Promenade Service season. 453 was the last open topper to run on 23 October, though 455 lasted until 26th. Closed topper 487 was also laid up after receiving some internal damage on a school, service. It last ran on 23 October 1998.
February 1999 saw 465-470, 481, 489 and 492 withdrawn but 466/9 were later reinstated. 489 and 492 were the last two ex Hull buses to run, 489 being the last of all, working a PM school contract 840 from Preesall to Fleetwood.
East Lancs 322/3 also became driver trainers 922/923 that summer. These were not the first to be so used as 332/3 were used to train drivers for London General between December 1995 and September 1996 with 333 continuing to be so used until January 1997. Blackpool Transport was one of a number of provincial firms to train new local recruits for London operators who couldn’t obtain enough drivers in London.
Withdrawals of ex Fylde buses continued in 2000 with 466, 478, 482 and 496 all withdrawn during 2000 and 469, 479/80/3 in January 2002 - these last had started 2001 in store, but 479/83 were reinstated to release Deltas for repaint into new Metro liveries in March and then all four returned to provide extra services for the Open Golf in July.
May 2002 saw the first new double deckers since 1994 with nine new low floor Dennis Tridents arrived to replace Fylde 441 and 495 plus East Lancs bodied 324-7/9-332, with 328/38 following in July. It was decided to retain the younger refurbished Fylde Atlanteans (443-5, 471-5) at the expense of older East Lancs. 324-330 were withdrawn nine years after the first of the batch (321).
The 2003 Tridents saw off 333/4, 336/7, 339-341, 343-9 and 442, while the 2004 batch replaced the last ex Fylde Atlanteans 443-445, 471-5 leaving Blackpool with just 15 Atlanteans (350-364).
The single deckers (134-137) were parked up at the end of October 1997 still in Fylde livery but were reinstated in December 1997. 134/6 went back into use but 135/7 were painted green and cream before use – 134/6 soon following. Despite this, they were withdrawn again at the end of March 1998, but returned to use at the start of May to release double deckers from summer services 1 (Promenade) and 21 (Zoo). December 1998 saw the quartet return to store but they emerged again in June for the summer services lasting until the end of August when they were withdrawn, departing on 30 October 1999 collected by Wacton – a Bromyard based dealer and operator.
Repaints
Routine repaints commenced in July 1980 and all of 301-362 received a full repaint in the original livery except for 304 and 358 which received all-over adverts as their first repaint. The vehicles were treated:
• 301-310 between July 1980 and March 1981
• 311-320 between July 1981 and March 1982
• 321-330 between August 1982 and March 1983
• 331-340 between June and November 1983
• 341-350 between August 1985 and c Jan 1986
• 351-362 between May 1986 and February 1987
• 301-320 were treated again between November 1983 and August 1985
308 shows off the experimental version of fleet livery with green rather than cream skirt in 1984 which it retained until its next repaint July 1988 (Brian Turner) |
- 304: Hounds Hill May 1982; Blackpool, Wyre and Fylde Health Authority November 1985; Hitachi April 1987 and to new fleet livery August 1989 (as a withdrawn bus)
- 312: Fylde Coast Rover April 1984; Louis Tussauds April 1986 and to new livery August 1988
- 314: Red Rose Rambler July 1982; Lancashire Bus Pass July 1984 to original fleet livery December 1986
- 326: Y-Fronts March 1984; back to original livery August 1985
- 358: Allied Carpets September 1985; Travelcard December 1986; Mackeson Stout May 1989 and back to fleet livery
324 newly outshopped in the new fleet livery in October 1987 using the earlier shades of green and cream, rather than off-white as used on the earlier Atlantean livery and the passing Swift. (Donald MacRae see his Victory Guy photo albums for more from his collection) |
Repaints took place again from September 1990, though the Stout buses lost their advertising liveries (362 for Bonanza Family restaurant, the rest for fleet livery). 327-333, 337-340 and 354 all received routine repaints before the end of the year. This continued with 325/6, 334/6/9, 341/3/5-8, 350, 352-355 treated in 1991 and 356/7/9, 363/4 by April 1992. 324 gained Shoemarket livery but the next fleet liveried repaint – 329 again – in October 1992 saw it emerge with black window surrounds as introduced on the Optare Deltas. Over the next two years 25 Atlanteans were treated to this revised version: 316, 324, 327-334, 336-40, 344/6/9, 350/2, 356/8, 360-2 – 346 was the last treated in October 1994.
The takeover of Fylde saw a revised livery using their style but in green and cream for Blackpool and blue and cream for Fylde adopted. Initial repaints in October saw 351 and 353 receive fronts in the new scheme with Zone Card adverts on the rear. 345 was the first full green and cream repaint in November. 322-327 went to Fylde and 322/5-7 had their livery modified to the blue and cream variant (over-painting green with blue or cream as appropriate. 323/4 were painted white with blue/cream fronts, 323 later gaining full livery but 324 received an advert. 328-330 were similarly partly repainted into blue and cream in March/April 1995 on transfer. 364 received a full repaint in Fylde two tone blue which was retained for Seagull Coaches operations and it joined that sub fleet as number 47.
Only a handful of new to Blackpool Atlanteans went directly for scrap. Other than 310/35/42 in 1987 seven East Lancs examples went for scrap: 333 in July 2003, 355/9 in July 2006 323 (ex training duties) in July 2007, 352/60 in April 2009 and 363 in July 2009.
Of the Fylde examples 441, 456/7/9, 469, 473, 480, 483, 486-488, 490/1/3 all went directly for scrap. A handful of examples were sold for preservation – 331, 334, 337, 353, 362, 445, 454, 458, 471, 479 and 496 though 331, 337 and 454 have since been scrapped.
- 301 Cedrics, Wivenhoe (5/94); Boardabus, Essex (9/94), Stuarts of Carluke (by 8/98) and disposed probably for scrap 2/99
- 302 Partridge, Hadleigh (?/94) and North Devon Red Bus (8/95), later became First Western National, w/d 5/01 for scrap
- 303 Maghull Coaches (2/92); Pilkington, Accrington (4/03) and c7/05 to A&P of Barway for spares/scrap [flickr 303 Barway]
- 304 Supreme, Hadleigh (c9/94); withdrawn by 1/99 presumed for scrap
- 305 ABC, Southport (8/96); Aintree Coachline/Helms of Eastham (10/00) sold for spares/scrap 1/01
- 306 Brentwood Coaches (8/96); Dons, Dunmow (9/99) c2004flickr link 306]w/d 2006 and for scrap
- 307-309 Thornes, Bubwith (8/96) w/d c2004 (307/8), c2007 (309) all scrapped
- 311/312 w/d by First Western National (ex Red Bus) 7/01 (311), 10/00 (312). 312 used as a store by Western National Preservation group but scrapped 3/08. 311 scrapped 2001 [flickr: 312 with Red Bus]
- 313 Wilson, Carnwath (4/96) and scrapped after low bridge accident 3/97
- 314 exported to Saudi Arabia 7/93
- 315 Philips, Penrhiwceiber 3/97, Shamrock, Pontypridd 9/97, scrapped 4/00
- 316 stripped for spares by Eastbourne Buses 12/96
- 317/9/21 scrap from North Birmingham 11/04 (317), 2/04 (319) and 2006 (321)
- 318/20 to Trailways, Sutton Coldfield (3/05 and 8/03 resp), 318 for spares, 320 for service. Both scrapped in 2007 [Flickr: 320 with Trailways]
- trainer 322 went to a private owner in Yorkshire in December 2008 but the trail then went cold and it is presumed scrapped.
- 324 went to Red Kite, St Helens (6/02), Tees Valley, Redcar (10/05), KJB, Lincoln (c2/07) and was scrapped in 2009.
- 325-327, 329, 330 and 332 all went to Liddells of Cumnock in August 2002 but were all withdrawn by 2007. Most were scrapped, but 327/9 saw further use with Howells of Deri but have since also been scrapped. 330 only ran briefly with Liddells but then became a store at the depot and still survived at least in 2011. [Flickr: 330 as a store with Liddell]
- 331 was briefly owned by LTT (until replaced by sister 334) and it was sold onto Fargo Coaches of Rayne who also purchased 339/40, 343-345 in August 2003 - these all went for scrap though 343 had a brief period in preservation.
- 328, 338 and 341 went to GM of Bridgend for further service lasting until 2006/7, though 338 later ran with Movereturn of Pontcymmer briefly in 2007.
- 336, 346-349 went to Ayrways of Ayr in August 2003 and went for scrap after a few years on school services.
- 337 was preserved initially in Kent and later in Blackpool but was broken up in 2008. Sister 334 is the sole survivor of this batch with LTT.
350 as Streetscene Permanent Way Bus (Brian Turner) |
The ‘final 15’ had a more varied afterlife:
- 350 became a ‘PW Bus’ with Blackpool Council Streetscene converted at BTS in 2006 and entering service in December 2006 - it lasted until November 2012 when it was replaced by a Metrorider. It was later advertised with a dealer near Warrington and is still shown as SORN
- 351 was used for spares by local preservationists and was later scrapped
- 352/60/3 were broken up at Inglemere Metals in Blackpool, 355/9 went to Partons of Barnsley
- 353 was preserved by Chesterfield 123 Group and is restored in the final livery
- 354/7/61 went to Scotbus, Inverness in November 2006 for school services, 354 was withdrawn late 2011, 357 in 2012 and 361 in 2013.
- 356 became a playbus initially in the South West and is currently in the Ascot area branded as Wendy Bus.
- 358 was bought by LTT for spares,
- 362 passed to LTT for preservation and is now owned by Martin Gurr and Gary Conn, restored to its 1990s livery
- 364 is still with BTS and has recently been restored to its original livery.
Ex Fylde 453 in its later guise with Mac Tours in Edinburgh during 2001 (James Millington) |
- 442 went to Pilkingtons, Accrington for spares
- 443 as a mobile display unit in Cambridgeshire – both have been scrapped.
- 444 is now preserved after use by two dance troupes from 2004 to 2015
- 445 is preserved and restored to Seagull Coaches livery.
- 451 (DBA227C) briefly ran with Halls of Kennoway and was rescued from scrap by a preservationist but eventually again succumbed to the scrapman eventually.
- 452 was exported to France but has not been seen recently.
- 453/5 went to Mac Tours – the former ending up in USA and the latter went for scrap without use despite a repaint.
- 458 is preserved by LTT and was rallied in 1998/9, it is currently under restoration as Lytham 77.
- 471, 479 and 496 are in private preservation
- 465 ran with Archway of Poulton from 1999 but was scrapped in 2004
- 466 with Maghull Coaches from 2001 until 2008
- 467 has been a static playbus on Anglesey since 1999
467 in its long term home at Pilot Boat Inn, Dulais, Anglesea (James Millington), it has since been repainted red as seen here in 2014 |
- 468 survives on Jersey as a commentary unit after a period with Royal British Legion - it was sold to Jersey Showjumping Association in January 2008 from Munden (dlr) Bristol. (Flickr photo 2015)
- 470 became a playbus in the Salford area in early 2000 but was scrapped a few years later
- 472 appeared as a non psv in Atherton in September 2006 but hasn't been taxed or tested since 2007
- 474 was converted at S&T Coachbuilders for use as a mobile catering unit at the Rocket Centre near Blackburn- it was later moved to storage nearby and it appeared in a yard near BAE Salmesbury in 2012 but has not been seen since (though it remains on SORN)
- 475 became a driver trainer in Dundee, lasting until 2006
- 478 became a playbus, initially in Yorkshire - but it spent many years at Haynes Motor Museum, Sparkford in Dorset. It was sold in 2015, reportedly for further use in the Bournemouth area, but it hasn't been traced since. [flickr: 478 at Haynes]
- 482 ran with A Jays Dance troupe from 2000 to 2006,
- 489/92 were used as PW Buses from 2000 to 2002 (489) or 2006 (492)the former spending some time at Whyndyke Farms in Blackpool before scrapping.
- 495 went to EST, South Wales for spares and
- 496 was preserved locally from 2001-2010 and after a spell at Whyndyke Farm as a non PSV is now at Keighley Bus Museum
Current survivors are thus:
330 (possible): Liddell's Cumnock (long term store)
334 Lancastrian Transport Trust (used by Catch 22 bus 2015/6)
350 (possible): with dealer
353 Chesterfield 123 Group
356 Playbus
362 Preserved, Blackpool
364 Blackpool Transport
444 Preserved
445 Preserved, Blackpool
458 Preserved (LTT)
467 Playbus (Pilot Boat Inn on Anglesea)
468 Jersey (commentary box)
471 Preserved, Blackpool
474 (possible) unknown
478 unknown location
479 Preserved, Blackpool
496 Preserved, Keighley
In so many ways, 'the last' 364 towards the end of its long career in April 2008. (Brian Turner) |