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Today's news is that the second Manx Trident is nearing completion with what is believed to be former 50 (and BTS 344) outshopped in base fleet livery at Bus and Coach World with sisters 48 and 51 alongside awaiting a workshop slot. Solo 297 brought 2011 to an end as the final bus to return to depot off the 2C, Trident 318 was the final big bus.
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Saturday, 31 December 2011
Friday, 30 December 2011
The Return of the 9
Today's service 9 has origins that date back to 1920, though the original service via Devonshire Road was replaced in 1959 and a new 9 involved into the developing Ingthorpe area until this ceased in 1992.
In June 1920 William Smith Motor Services introduced a bus service from Layton Cemetery Tram Terminus via Bispham Road to Bispham Village. It wasn't particularly frequent - in 1922 a two hourly service was advertised - but in 1923 it was extended via the tram route along Talbot Road to Talbot Mews - the predecessor to Talbot Road Bus Station.
The route was later extended to Carr Road via All Hallows Road. The Corporation took over in 1926 and briefly merged the service with the Adelaide Place to Layton service (via Caunce Street) and extended the route to Norbreck. This took service number 9 but was quickly cut back to run from Talbot Mews to Carr Road. In 1927 a short extension along Fleetwood Road took the 9 to Mossom Lane and then in 1930 it was extended to Cleveleys Beach via Fleetwood Road, Bispham Road and Victoria Road. Two buses provided a half hourly service. From 1934 double deckers were used.
1937 saw a controversial summer extension to Fleetwood which provoked legal challenge from Ribble. Blackpool ran via Rossall Road, Broadway, Queens Hotel, Poulton Road and Lord St to Queens Terrace every 20 minutes with the year round service to Cleveleys now showing service 9A. In 1938 the route was split with the Fleetwood workings (9) serving Bispham Village and the Cleveleys workings (9A) serving Devonshire Road. In Winter the Bispham Village workings showed 9B and terminated at Cleveleys! The Fleetwood extension was suspended for the war, but never resumed, leaving the 9A/9B as year round services. A combined 15 minute service was provided form 1939, dropping to 20 minutes in 1942 due to war time economies - this needed 3 buses. 1951 saw a diversion in Anchorsholme via Valeway Avenue, North Drive and Anchorsholme Lane and the service frequency grew to a combined 10 minutes with six buses allocated.
The new 9A provided a daily 20 minute service from North Station to Ingthorpe Estate (Ashfield Road near Briarwood Drive) running from Bispham Clinic via Ingthorpe Avenue and Ashfield Road. It was supplemented by the 9B at peak times (same hours as the 9 in 1959) which ran along Devonshire Road to Russell Avenue - it was later extended to Norbreck.
Atlanteans took over most workings from 1977 and in 1982 the route was simplified with all journeys running via Sevenoakes Drive. Route 9 was reintroduced, the 9B dropped but the 9A was now used to signify journeys that ran via North Drive and Victoria Road instead of the full length of Anchorsholme Lane.
At deregulation this pattern continued - 4 Atlanteans provided the daytime service with a combined 20 minute headway. In the evening a half hourly service was provided - interworked with the 22/22A at Cleveleys whilst on Sundays a 40 minute frequency ran. Amazingly, though, in January 1987 crew operation was reinstated after 17 years! The running time was cut from 31 to 26 minutes allowing a 15 minute service to be provided. PD3s and occasionally Routemasters joined the established Atlanteans on the route.
Fylde was starting to stretch its muscles having won the tender for route 8 to Whiteholme and soon extended it to Cleveleys and double the frequency to every 30 minutes. By 1988 it was running through to Lytham. Also in November 1987 Fylde started a minibus route (66) along the 9 route to Sevenoakes, but diverting down many of the estate roads. In April this was extended to Cleveleys giving Fylde six buses per hour from Ashfield Road to Cleveleys compared to Blackpool's four! Blackpool introduced the 9C (Bus Station to College at peak times and lunch times) as part response.
Not one to take the attack lying down, Blackpool converted the 9 to Handybus minibus operation from August 1988 and standardised the route omitting Moor Park Avenue (using Bispham Road and Bristol Road) and Victoria Road West (all buses ran via Anchorsholme Lane). 8 City Pacers provided a 7/8 minute service during the day and a 15 minute service at night with all departures extended to Corporation St in Blackpool Town Centre. The 22A was also diverted via Ashfield Road between Bispham and Cleveleys to reinforce the 9s.
In 1990 the Corporation St section was withdrawn and in March 1992 the 9 was replaced by an extended 12 using Optare Delta single deckers on a 15 minute St. Annes to Cleveleys service. Fylde cut its minibus service to half hourly in April but extended route 11A to Cleveleys via the 12 route. When the two companies merged in 1994 the 12 was cut to half hourly - the 11/11A/12 making a combined 10 minute service between St. Annes and Cleveleys, albeit two per hour serving Warbreck Drive as service 11 - all three routes used double deckers again. The 22/22A continued every 15 minutes too. Briefly in 1998/9 the 12 was extended to Fleetwood once per hour - shades of the 9 in the 1930s. The service switched back to single deckers again in 1999
The Metro network change in April 2001 saw the 11, 11A, 12 and parts of the 22/22A merged into a single service "Line 11" from Lytham to Cleveleys. This ran via Talbot Road, Layton, Benson Road, Bispham Road to Bispham Library, then Ingthorpe Avenue, Ashfield Road, Sevenoakes Drive, Anchorsholme Lane, North Drive and Victoria Road West to Cleveleys. Today it is operated a mix of Deltas and low floor Tridetns with help from Olympians and the odd Excel and Solo with a bus every 7/8 minutes. Line 3 replaced the 11 route via Warbreck Drive and the ex Fylde minibus route (by then the 33), while Line 7 replaced the 22/22A north of Bispham. Line 11 continued largely unchanged on its northern end - other than the odd tweak of the running time and evening/Sunday frequency change until the post Metro network change of July 2010.
26 July 2010 saw the 11 split with the Blackpool to Cleveleys section replaced by new service 9 which operated every 10 minutes on weekday days, every 20 on Sunday days and every 30 each evening using 9 buses (3 evenings, 4 Sundays). It initially started from Corporation Street but the Town Centre terminus moved to Clifton Street on 30 August. Since then it has received minor timetable changes with a reduction of the Sunday evening service to hourly in May 2011 and a reduced evening running time of 29 minutes from June. The route is normally operated by Dennis Tridents, though single deckers tend to take over at weekends as the Tridents are required for Promenade service 1. Step entrance Olympians are quite common too. Route 9 has settled back into the network - almost as if it had never been replaced in the first place.
After 18 years, the 9 rejoined the Blackpool network in July 2010. Here 377 approaches Corporation Street terminus on the first day. |
In June 1920 William Smith Motor Services introduced a bus service from Layton Cemetery Tram Terminus via Bispham Road to Bispham Village. It wasn't particularly frequent - in 1922 a two hourly service was advertised - but in 1923 it was extended via the tram route along Talbot Road to Talbot Mews - the predecessor to Talbot Road Bus Station.
The route was later extended to Carr Road via All Hallows Road. The Corporation took over in 1926 and briefly merged the service with the Adelaide Place to Layton service (via Caunce Street) and extended the route to Norbreck. This took service number 9 but was quickly cut back to run from Talbot Mews to Carr Road. In 1927 a short extension along Fleetwood Road took the 9 to Mossom Lane and then in 1930 it was extended to Cleveleys Beach via Fleetwood Road, Bispham Road and Victoria Road. Two buses provided a half hourly service. From 1934 double deckers were used.
PD3 507 in 1930s livery heads along Devonshire Road while operating service 22 over the section which replaced route 9 in 1959. |
October 1959 saw a major network recast in the North of the town. Route 22 (Halfway House to Bispham) absorbed the Bispham to Cleveleys sections of the 9A and 9B (the latter as 22A) - this route had duplicated the 9A/B form Blackpool to Bispham and this rationalisation seemed sensible. However at peak times a higher frequency was desired so a 10 minute shuttle service from North Station to Bispham Clinic was provided - showing number 9 operating from 7am to 9am and 12noon to 7pm using 3 buses. By summer 1960 the 9 was running all day but in October it was revised once again into the 9A and 9B!
The new 9A provided a daily 20 minute service from North Station to Ingthorpe Estate (Ashfield Road near Briarwood Drive) running from Bispham Clinic via Ingthorpe Avenue and Ashfield Road. It was supplemented by the 9B at peak times (same hours as the 9 in 1959) which ran along Devonshire Road to Russell Avenue - it was later extended to Norbreck.
In 1963 the routes were rationalised into a single service 9 again - prior to reaching Bispham the buses diverting at Moor Park via Bristol Avenue onto Ashfield Road, then as the inbound 9A route along Ingthorpe Avenue to Bispham then the 9B route via Devonshire Road, Guildford Road, Norbreck Road, Fleetwood Road to terminate near the borough boundary at Anchorsholme Lane junction. The 9 now ran into the Bus Station, rather than from the Railway Station across the road. 3 buses allowed a 20 minute frequency to be provided. The development of the Ingthorpe estates saw frequent changes. Route 8 via Dickson Road and Warbreck Drive took over the Norbreck section in summer 1965 and the 9 terminated at Bispham Village with only 2 buses now needed. By the Autumn, the 9 had been diverted away from Bispham Village and carried on along Ashfield Road to Fairfax Avenue.
In 1970 the route was converted to one man operation using AEC Swifts and was extended to the College of Technology further along the developing Ashfield Road. The extra running time saw a 24 minute service provided to retain the requirement for two buses. 1973 saw the completion of Ashfield Road and the 9 now served the Sevenoakes Estate -terminating on estate roads at Grassington Place - a third Swift was allocated to allow a 20 minute frequency to be provided. Meanwhile route 7C (Blackpool to Anchorsholme via Warbreck Drive and Bispham) had been diverted through Ingthorpe Estate and was extended to Cleveleys in 1967.
1975 saw the 7C and 9 rationalised with the 7C terminating at "Whiteholme" - once known as "Haddle House Estate", but really Anchorsholme and only just round the corner from Sevenoakes - the terminus being the junction of Anchorsholme Lane and Luton Road. From 1982 this became route 8 and Fylde took it over at deregulation. Route 9 was now extended from Grassington Place to Cleveleys and once again split into the 9A and 9B! The 9A which ran daily used Sevenoakes Drive and Anchorsholme Lane in full, the 9B (weekdays only) used Warren Drive, North Drive, Luton Road and Anchorsholme Lane. Both ran every 40 minutes and four vehicles were now required.
Atlantean 324 in the customary pose at Cleveleys Bus Station during the period when buses faced outwards - OK for PD3s with their rear door but a somewhat less user friendly when Atlanteans appeared. |
1987 and the 9 had returned to crew operation - though usually still with Atlanteans such as 307 (Donald MacRae see his Victory Guy photo albums for more from his collection) |
Fylde Renault 125 loads in Cleveleys Bus Station on competing service 66A which largely followed the 9 to Blackpool but did penetrate some of the local housing areas en route (Dave Hatcher) |
City Pacers ruled the roost on route 9 from August 1988 to its merger with the 12 in March 1992. Here 551 heads to Corporation Street - terminus for the route in 1989 (Dave Hatcher) |
Delta 115 awaits time on route 12, which had replaced the 9 in March 1992 (Dave Hatcher) |
Line 11 was a haunt of Deltas for all its nine year life under the Metro banner |
The Metro network change in April 2001 saw the 11, 11A, 12 and parts of the 22/22A merged into a single service "Line 11" from Lytham to Cleveleys. This ran via Talbot Road, Layton, Benson Road, Bispham Road to Bispham Library, then Ingthorpe Avenue, Ashfield Road, Sevenoakes Drive, Anchorsholme Lane, North Drive and Victoria Road West to Cleveleys. Today it is operated a mix of Deltas and low floor Tridetns with help from Olympians and the odd Excel and Solo with a bus every 7/8 minutes. Line 3 replaced the 11 route via Warbreck Drive and the ex Fylde minibus route (by then the 33), while Line 7 replaced the 22/22A north of Bispham. Line 11 continued largely unchanged on its northern end - other than the odd tweak of the running time and evening/Sunday frequency change until the post Metro network change of July 2010.
26 July 2010 saw the 11 split with the Blackpool to Cleveleys section replaced by new service 9 which operated every 10 minutes on weekday days, every 20 on Sunday days and every 30 each evening using 9 buses (3 evenings, 4 Sundays). It initially started from Corporation Street but the Town Centre terminus moved to Clifton Street on 30 August. Since then it has received minor timetable changes with a reduction of the Sunday evening service to hourly in May 2011 and a reduced evening running time of 29 minutes from June. The route is normally operated by Dennis Tridents, though single deckers tend to take over at weekends as the Tridents are required for Promenade service 1. Step entrance Olympians are quite common too. Route 9 has settled back into the network - almost as if it had never been replaced in the first place.
First day of new route 9 saw 310 in service |
Fleet Review 2011
During 2011, the Blackpool Transport fleet has continued to contract. At the start of the year 156 buses were in the active fleet comprising:
Disposals
In January 2011 BT also owned 16 stored buses: Deltas 101/2, 119, 122/3/5/6, 132/3, Atlantean 364, Olympians 365-367, 401 and 403 plus open topper 813. Of these 364 has been available for events but not used commercially. 365 and 403 returned to use in September 2011 while the remainder were disposed of. Additionally Solos 261-266 were withdrawn between February and May, Metrorider 518 in January and Olympians 404 and 409 in January and 406 in November. Most were sold leaving just 364, 366, 406 in store, along with the open toppers.
Dates of sale were:
Refurbishments
Also visiting Bus and Coach World were Olympians 375-379 which have been fitted with seat belts to operate primary school baths contracts to Palatine and Moor Park swimming pools. All five were repainted, but sister 374 has not been treated either to the new livery or fitted with seatbelts. It is normally the only one to appear on local services now.
Repaints
No less than 34 buses have been repainted during 2011 - plus 343 at Bus and Coach World
January - Trident 329, 336
February - Trident 327/8
March - Solo 255, Trident 325
April - Trident 324, 326, Olympian 369
May - Solo 284/5
June - Solo 250, 286, Olympian 368
July - Solo 287, 291 Trident 322/3, Olympian 379
August - Trident 338
September - Solo 251, 292, Tridents 310, 339
October - Olympians 375-378
November - Excel 222, Solo 252/3 (plus Trident 343)
December - Excel 210, 221, Solo 254
These repaints saw off Line 11 livery with 322 the last bus to operate so attired on 5 July and Line 16 with 292 last used in September. Line 10 livery was eradicated by 518s withdrawal on 27th January.
Livery Summary
New Livery: Excels 210/1, 214, 221/2/4, Solos 250-255, 284-293, Trident 310, 322-343, Olympians 368/9, 375-379, Volvo 520-533 (66)
Old Pool Livery: Excels 218-220/3, Solos 273-283, Tridents 317-9, Olympians 370-374 (23)
Line 1 Orange/Yellow: Olympians 365, 402/3, 405, 407/8 410-17 (14)
Line 2 Green/Yellow: Solos 240-247, 249, 294 (10)
Line 3 Blue/Yellow: Solos 258-260, 295-7 (6)
Line 4 Cadbury Blue/Yellow: Solos 267-269, 271/2 (5)
Line 5 Red/Yellow: Solos 248, 256/257 (3)
Line 7 Purple/Yellow: Excels 212/3/5-7, 225/6 (7)
Line 14 Dark Green/Yellow: Tridents 301-309/311-316 (15)
City Sightseeing: Olympians 818, 857, 873 (3)
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Olympians 368 and 369 are the oldest buses to receive the new fleet livery - both were painted in 2011. |
- 67 double deckers (40 Tridents and 27 Olympians)
- 31 single deckers (17 Excels and 14 Volvo B7s)
- 58 minibuses (57 Solos and 1 Metrorider)
518 was the final Metrorider to operate in service with Blackpool Transport, finishing its active life on service 15 on 27 January and was later sold for scrap |
In January 2011 BT also owned 16 stored buses: Deltas 101/2, 119, 122/3/5/6, 132/3, Atlantean 364, Olympians 365-367, 401 and 403 plus open topper 813. Of these 364 has been available for events but not used commercially. 365 and 403 returned to use in September 2011 while the remainder were disposed of. Additionally Solos 261-266 were withdrawn between February and May, Metrorider 518 in January and Olympians 404 and 409 in January and 406 in November. Most were sold leaving just 364, 366, 406 in store, along with the open toppers.
Dates of sale were:
- March 2011 - Deltas 101 and 133 (preserved)
- April 2011 - Open Top 813 (Padarn Bus)
- May 2011 - 261/2/4 (Centrebus), 263/5/6 (Holmeswood Coaches)
- June 2011 - Delta 132, Olympian 367 and 404, Metrorider 518 (scrap)
- July 2011 - Delta 126 (scrap)
- September 2011 - Delta 123/5 (scrap)
- October 2011 - Deltas 102, 119, 122 and Olympian 409 (scrap)
Excel 226 is currently away at Cummins in Stockton to receive a new engine |
Excel refurbishments continued. 224 started the year at Cummins after repaint and refurbishment in Blackpool. It returned in January and was back in use at the end of February. The third ex Go North East example to be treated was 221 which left for Cummins on 20 January and returned in late June and returned to use on 10 September. October saw body refurbishment commence and it it was repainted during December and returned to service around 17th.
221 was replaced by 222 at Cummins and returned on 14 October prior to repaint and return to use on 2 December. 226 went in exchange and remains away. 223 and 225 are the only two to retain the original specification engine.
Trident 343 arrived in Blackpool at the start of December having been refurbished by Bus and Coach World. It is the first of eleven expected from Bus Vannin on the Isle of Man |
No new vehicles have been purchased, however the first of 11 Dennis Tridents from Bus Vannin on the Isle of Man arrived in early December and entered service on 30th. It was imported in July and was refurbished with a new front at Bus and Coach World, Blackburn. Originally 53 EMN53Y it is now Blackpool 343 and is registered H1FBT using the registration from former Delta 131. Sister bus 50 EMN50Y was delivered to Blackburn in early November following withdrawal with roof damage on the Island. December saw 48 and 51 (EMN48/51Y) arrive at Blackburn - 48 having been out of use for most of 2011 but 51 is a more recent withdrawal from Bus Vannin.
Also visiting Bus and Coach World were Olympians 375-379 which have been fitted with seat belts to operate primary school baths contracts to Palatine and Moor Park swimming pools. All five were repainted, but sister 374 has not been treated either to the new livery or fitted with seatbelts. It is normally the only one to appear on local services now.
285 is one of 12 Solos to receive the new fleet livery during 2011 |
No less than 34 buses have been repainted during 2011 - plus 343 at Bus and Coach World
January - Trident 329, 336
February - Trident 327/8
March - Solo 255, Trident 325
April - Trident 324, 326, Olympian 369
May - Solo 284/5
June - Solo 250, 286, Olympian 368
July - Solo 287, 291 Trident 322/3, Olympian 379
August - Trident 338
September - Solo 251, 292, Tridents 310, 339
October - Olympians 375-378
November - Excel 222, Solo 252/3 (plus Trident 343)
December - Excel 210, 221, Solo 254
322 was the final vehicle to operate in Line 11 colours and is seen here at the end of June shortly before entering the paint shop. |
These repaints saw off Line 11 livery with 322 the last bus to operate so attired on 5 July and Line 16 with 292 last used in September. Line 10 livery was eradicated by 518s withdrawal on 27th January.
Elderly Leyland Olympians saw regular service on seasonal route 20 including the hitherto little seen on service work 411-417. 411 leaves Blackpool Zoo |
Livery Summary
New Livery: Excels 210/1, 214, 221/2/4, Solos 250-255, 284-293, Trident 310, 322-343, Olympians 368/9, 375-379, Volvo 520-533 (66)
Old Pool Livery: Excels 218-220/3, Solos 273-283, Tridents 317-9, Olympians 370-374 (23)
Line 1 Orange/Yellow: Olympians 365, 402/3, 405, 407/8 410-17 (14)
Line 2 Green/Yellow: Solos 240-247, 249, 294 (10)
Line 3 Blue/Yellow: Solos 258-260, 295-7 (6)
Line 4 Cadbury Blue/Yellow: Solos 267-269, 271/2 (5)
Line 5 Red/Yellow: Solos 248, 256/257 (3)
Line 7 Purple/Yellow: Excels 212/3/5-7, 225/6 (7)
Line 14 Dark Green/Yellow: Tridents 301-309/311-316 (15)
City Sightseeing: Olympians 818, 857, 873 (3)
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Snow Condition for a Bus Service
14 December 1981 and PD3 523 is trying to maintain a service on otherwise Swift operated route 12, but has become stuck at the Airport terminus |
The Swifts were confined to the depot on the 14th as their rear engine layout gave them poorer weight distribution than the PD3s. Here the Diamond T tow wagon poses with 569 549 and 594. |
PD3 508 heads through the slush and snow near the Metropole on the tram replacement service. Sisters 515 and 518 were also seen in use on 14th. |
Conditions had improved enough to reinstate more routes, and the Swifts, on the Tuesday. Here is 550 back in action on route 26 on Clifton Street. |
343 Hits the Road
343 is in service for the first time today - seen in poor weather at Layton Square on the 1415 Grange Park to Lytham service 11 working. |
Sisters 48, 50 and 51 are currently on site at Blackburn.
343 alongside one of the 1990s Blackpool Transport shelters, many of which have now been replaced |
Tuesday, 27 December 2011
Blackpool and the Atlantean
305 - one of the first batch of Atlanteans showing off the original livery at Borough Boundary |
Manager Derek Hyde told the Gazette in November 1976 that the all-over cream livery would be “too much of a good thing” on the double deckers and was planning a new livery based on green and cream. The eventual scheme of cream with green roof, top deck windows, narrow band above the lower windows and a broad band on the lower panels was influenced by Southampton Corporation.
The initial batch were deployed in OPO format on routes 7/7A (Bispham Circular) and crew form alongside PD3s on their varied duties including the 5/5A, 6, 11/11A, 11C, 14 and 22/22A.
Brand new 329 in Rigby Road Depot in September 1979. Behind is a Preston Corporation Panther on loan due to vehicle shortages |
362 - the last bus seated Atlantean competes for attention with the mayoral car when still nearly new in December 1983 |
Finally 363/4 (B363/4UBV) arrived and entered service week ending 22nd September 1984 – only Fylde 75 (B75URN) entered service later than this pair on 1st October as one of only four B-reg Atlanteans (Merseyside 1070 being the other). Unusually for the Blackpool fleet they featured high back semi coach seats which reduced the number of seats which could be accommodated. The total capacity was 74, with 45 upstairs and 29 downstairs as the rear facing seats over the rear wheelarches were omitted in favour of luggage pens. The body design featured a single piece upper deck front window and dropped leading edge to the first side window. The livery was modified with cream with green roof and skirt with two lime green bands as illustrated.
The two coach seated Atlanteans 363/4 arrived in this unusual livery. Note the revised front. When not used on private hires they were often used on route 12 |
An unusual exchange in 1985 saw 351 and 352 operate with West Yorkshire PTE for a few weeks in exchange for their 6299/300 (PUA299/300W). This was part of the Tramway Centenary events as they carried commemorative liveries for Huddersfield Transport buses and trams respectively. Blackpool numbered them 366/7 and 352 was swapped for 366 at an event at Crich on 9 June and returned on 1st August. 351 and 367 were exchanged between 16 June and 31 July. [Flickr link: 352 in Huddersfield]
Withdrawals and Disposals Part 1
Three Atlanteans were destined for a short life with Blackpool for on 1st October 1986 a fire started in the depot yard on 310 and spread to 335 and 342 with sisters 340 and 362 receiving minor damage as they were shunted out of the way before the fire spread. The disfigured remains were kept in store until they were removed for scrap in June 1987.
Fire damaged Atlanteans 342, 310 and 335 (left to right) stored in the depot prior to disposal |
Also 314 was reinstated, 311/2 did not run for Blackpool again but lasted in store until sale in August 1991 to North Devon Red Bus. 313 was withdrawn in October 1990 with 314 again in May 1991 – both passing to Blue Bus, Horwich in August 1991.
315-317 came off in October 1991 but were reinstated in December to release Routemasters from route 12. February 1993 saw 315-323/5/6 withdrawn but they were reinstated in June 1993 for a few weeks. Several also ran in April for a shuttle bus contract for a Rotary International conference. 316, 317, 321-323, 325 and 326 returned to use in September while advertising liveried 324 was withdrawn. All but 326 were withdrawn once again in November. 315/6 went to Eastbourne Buses in January while 317-321 were sold to North Birmingham Busways a month later. 323/4 later returned to use but by November 1994 322-327 had moved to Fylde, joined by 328-330 in March 1995. [Flickr link 316 at Eastbourne]
The Fylde Inheritance
Fylde was purchased by Blackpool in May 1994 and at the time operated 52 Atlanteans including four rebodied as single deckers. 18 were Northern Counties example new to Fylde between 1975 and 1984 plus the sole survivor of three new to Lytham in 1970; 18 were Roe bodied dating from 1970-1973 and acquired by Fylde from Kingston-upon-Hull City Transport between 1986 and 1993; 9 were 1976/7 vintage Northern Counties bodied buses new to Greater Manchester and the last two were a 1965 built Metro Cammell open topper new to Salford and a 1978 built Northern Counties bus new to AA of Ayr. By this time Blackpool had sold 23 of its 64 buses, but attention now turned to replacing the Fylde examples as only six of Fylde’s were younger than Blackpool’s oldest.
Blackpool transferred 322-327 and 364 to Fylde in November 1994 which replaced four of the ex Manchester and two of the ex Hull buses. Also transferred in were 328-330 in March 1995 and 331/4 in April 1996 to cover additional contract work. Blackpool absorbed Fylde in July 1996 and inherited the 46 surviving Atlanteans – and reclaimed the 12 transferred in. The new fleet comprised:
- Single deckers 134-137 (TKU462/5/6/9K)
- Northern Counties coach seated 441-445 (HIL5341/2/5943, NJI5504/5) Northern Counties bus seated 450 (HRN100N), 458 (ATD281J), 465-9 (ONF660/9/73R, SRJ756/7R), 470 (TSD571S), 471-4 (OJI4371-4), 475 (SIB8405), 478/9/81-3 (HRN98/9,101-3N), 495 (RHG95T), 496 (XHG96V) – 465-9 being the new to Manchester buses, 470 was new to AA and 458 to Lytham
- Roe bodied closed toppers 449 (ARH314K), 456 (WRH291J), 459 (ARH301K), 486-493 (MIW8186-8, RIB4089/6590, IIL4291, NIW6492, ARH306K)
- Roe bodied open toppers 452-454/7 (TKH266H, WRH294J, ARH304K, WRH295J) plus open rear balcony 455 (ARH304K)
- Metro Cammell bodied open topper 451 (DBA227C).
- 449, 451-459, 486, 490/1/3 were type PDR1A/1 (451 PDR1/1) rather than the later AN68 type.
Fylde had adopted a blue and cream livery which was carried by 442, 449, 451/4-6/8/9, 465/9/70, 473/8/9, 481-3, 486, 488-493 while 134-7, 443-445, 447 466/8 and 474 retained two tone blue. Adverts 441, 450, 452/3/7 471/2/5, 495/6 carried all-over adverts with the front in either blue and cream or green and cream, while 467 had been painted into Blackpool livery prior to the take-over.
Withdrawals and Disposals Part 2
331-337 were stored from April 1995, but were back in use by June 1995. Priority was to replace former Fylde buses. Between October 1996 and April 1997 449, 451, 456-459, 486/8, 490/1/3 were withdrawn. Open toppers 452-5 and damaged closed topper 487 came off in late 1998. February 1999 saw 465-470, 481, 489 and 492 withdrawn but 466/9 were later reinstated. East Lancs 322/3 also became driver trainers 922/923 that summer. These were not the first to be so used as 332/3 were used to train drivers for London General between December 1995 and September 1996 with 333 continuing to be so used until January 1997. Blackpool Transport was one of a number of provincial firms to train new local recruits for London operators who couldn’t obtain enough drivers in London.
Former Fylde 75 in its later guise as Blackpool 475 heads along the Promenade to work a school service in Lytham St. Annes in March 2004 a few months before withdrawal |
The single deckers (134-137) were parked up at the end of October 1997 still in Fylde livery but were reinstated in December 1997. 134/6 went back into use but 135/7 were painted green and cream before use – 134/6 soon following. Despite this, they were withdrawn again at the end of March 1998, but returned to use at the start of May to release double deckers from summer services 1 (Promenade) and 21 (Zoo). December 1998 saw the quartet return to store but they emerged again in June for the summer services lasting until the end of August when they were withdrawn, departing on 30 October 1999 collected by Wacton – a Bromyard based dealer and operator.
Of the double deckers, disposals were varied with most of the East Lancs buses seeing further service, while the Northern Counties ones usually went for non psv work. Typically the older Roe bodied examples were scrapped while in May 2003, 333 became the first routine withdrawal of the East Lancs examples to be sent for scrap. Other than 333 and the fire victims all others of 301-349 saw further use.
Of the last 15, 350/1 spent several months in store in early 2005 but were not withdrawn until December 2005. More Tridents saw off 352/4-6/9 in June 2006 and 353, 357, 360-2 followed by August. A farewell event on 28/29 October saw 358, 360-2 return to use for the weekend, alongside 363/4. The latter pair remained in service while the others returned to store. Surprisingly 353 and 360 returned to use in January 2007 (though 358 soon replaced 360 in February). Final withdrawal for 353, 358 and 363 came in July 2008 with 364 soldiering on alone until October 2009. Since then it has remained in the fleet as a heritage bus for events only. Trainers 922/3 (ex 322/3) lasted until February 2007 and December 2006 respectively.
Repaints
Routine repaints commenced in July 1980 and all of 301-362 received a full repaint in the original livery except for 304 and 358 which received all-over adverts as their first repaint. The vehicles were treated:
• 301-310 between July 1980 and March 1981
• 311-320 between July 1981 and March 1982
• 321-330 between August 1982 and March 1983
• 331-340 between June and November 1983
• 341-350 between August 1985 and c Jan 1986
• 351-362 between May 1986 and February 1987
• 301-320 were treated again between November 1983 and August 1985
308 shows off the experimental version of fleet livery with green rather than cream skirt in 1984 which it retained until its next repaint July 1988 |
304: Hounds Hill May 1982; Blackpool, Wyre and Fylde Health Authority November 1985; Hitachi April 1987 and to new fleet livery August 1989 (as a withdrawn bus)
312: Fylde Coast Rover April 1984; Louis Tussauds April 1986 and to new livery August 1988
314: Red Rose Rambler July 1982; Lancashire Bus Pass July 1984 to original fleet livery December 1986
326: Y-Fronts March 1984; back to original livery August 1985
358: Allied Carpets September 1985; Travelcard December 1986; Mackeson Stout May 1989 and back to fleet livery
324 newly outshopped in the new fleet livery in October 1987 using the earlier shades of green and cream, rather than off-white as used on the earlier Atlantean livery and the passing Swift. (Donald MacRae see his Victory Guy photo albums for more from his collection) |
1988 saw attention focus on completing the second repaints of 321-340 with 325/6/8 outshopped between April and September, 331/4/6/8 between March and July. The third repaints of 301-320 progressed with 308/9, 311-314, 318-320 all treated by September. March saw 347/9 become the first of batch five to be repainted into the new livery and the nine survivors had been treated by November. 351-4 were painted between October and December 1988 while 363/4 lost their coach livery in favour of the new bus livery in December.
The 1983 batch was treated between November 1988 and April 1989. The last three (360-362, plus Travelcard livery 358 and already painted 321) were all outshopped in all-over adverts for Mackeson Stout in April 1989. This completed the programme, but surprisingly in August/September 301-307 were all repainted despite being stored in reserve – 301/4-6 received the new livery for the first time, but only 305 would wear it in service as this was reinstated for winter 1989/90 before disposal in May. Also repainted in autumn 1989 were 315-317, 322-324.
Repaints took place again from September 1990, though the Stout buses lost their advertising liveries (362 for Bonanza Family restaurant, the rest for fleet livery). 327-333, 337-340 and 354 all received routine repaints before the end of the year. This continued with 325/6, 334/6/9, 341/3/5-8, 350, 352-355 treated in 1991 and 356/7/9, 363/4 by April 1992. 324 gained Shoemarket livery but the next fleet liveried repaint – 329 again – in October 1992 saw it emerge with black window surrounds as introduced on the Optare Deltas. Over the next two years 25 Atlanteans were treated to this revised version: 316, 324, 327-334, 336-40, 344/6/9, 350/2, 356/8, 360-2 – 346 was the last treated in October 1994
The takeover of Fylde saw a revised livery using their style but in green and cream for Blackpool and blue and cream for Fylde adopted. Initial repaints in October saw 351 and 353 receive fronts in the new scheme with Zone Card adverts on the rear. 345 was the first full green and cream repaint in November. 322-327 went to Fylde and 322/5-7 had their livery modified to the blue and cream variant (over-painting green with blue or cream as appropriate. 323/4 were painted white with blue/cream fronts, 323 later gaining full livery but 324 received an advert. 328-330 were similarly partly repainted into blue and cream in March/April 1995 on transfer. 364 received a full repaint in Fylde two tone blue which was retained for Seagull Coaches operations and it joined that sub fleet as number 47.
The takeover of Fylde saw a revised livery using their style but in green and cream for Blackpool and blue and cream for Fylde adopted. Initial repaints in October saw 351 and 353 receive fronts in the new scheme with Zone Card adverts on the rear. 345 was the first full green and cream repaint in November. 322-327 went to Fylde and 322/5-7 had their livery modified to the blue and cream variant (over-painting green with blue or cream as appropriate. 323/4 were painted white with blue/cream fronts, 323 later gaining full livery but 324 received an advert. 328-330 were similarly partly repainted into blue and cream in March/April 1995 on transfer. 364 received a full repaint in Fylde two tone blue which was retained for Seagull Coaches operations and it joined that sub fleet as number 47.
The transfers left 331-334, 336-341, 343-362 in the Blackpool fleet. Routine repaints into the new livery commenced in January 1995 with 348. 334/6/9/40, 343/4/7/50, 354/5/7/8 361/3 were also treated by the end of the year – plus 331 and 341 as all-over adverts for North West Lancashire Health Authority and Travelcard respectively. Spring 1996 saw 352 and 362 completed, but then attention turned to repaints out of Fylde colours. Ex Fylde buses 441/4 466-8 475 487 496 were treated in 1996, along with 326/8/9 and the sold repaint out of the old green and cream livery was 360. 1997 saw 443/5, 471/2 and 492 repainted before April 1997 before the livery was modified on these buses to feature a more shallow skirt. 442 453-5, 465/9, 470/3/4, 478/9, 481-3, 487/9 were so treated between June 1997 and January 1998. East Lancs 322/3/5/7, 330 also lost blue and cream in the same period while 332, 346, 351/3/8 received routine repaints – some treated for the second time.
The old livery was last observed in 1998 with 349 painted out in February, 356 in June and finally 358 in July. Several vehicles received second repaints into green/cream from then until 327 emerged in January 2001 – the last full Atlantean repaint and unusually omitting the black window surrounds. Prior to this two further ex Fylde buses received fleet livery ex all-over adverts – 495 in August 1998 and 480 in November 1999. Internally buses were rarely modified, though some had non standard seat coverings fitted sporadically. Early vehicles had leatherette trim edging to the yellow, brown and black moquette. Coach seated 363/4 were treated to full seat retrims in 1999 using an NBC style orange pattern
Only a handful of new to Blackpool Atlanteans went directly for scrap. Other than 310/35/42 in 1987 seven East Lancs examples went for scrap: 333 in July 2003, 355/9 in July 2006 323 (ex training duties) in July 2007, 352/60 in April 2009 and 363 in July 2009. Of the Fylde examples 441, 456/7/9, 469, 473, 480, 483, 486-488, 490/1/3 all went directly for scrap. A handful of examples were sold for preservation – 322, 331, 334, 337, 353, 362, 445, 454, 458, 471, 479 and 496 though 331, 337 and 454 have since been scrapped; 322 is of unknown status and 496 now in non psv ownership
306 with Hedingham Omnibuses Nayland base in June 1991 still in Blackpool livery which it retained with Norfolks who acquired 305-309 in May 1990 prior to takeover by Hedingham the following year |
- 301 Cedrics, Wivenhoe (5/94); Boardabus, Essex (9/94), Stuarts of Carluke (by 8/98) and disposed probably for scrap 2/99
- 302 Partridge, Hadleigh (?/94) and North Devon Red Bus (8/95), later became First Western National, w/d 5/01 for scrap
- 303 Maghull Coaches (2/92); Pilkington, Accrington (4/03) and c7/05 to A&P of Barway for spares/scrap [flickr 303 Barway]
- 304 Supreme, Hadleigh (c9/94); withdrawn by 1/99 presumed for scrap
- 305 ABC, Southport (8/96); Aintree Coachline/Helms of Eastham (10/00) sold for spares/scrap 1/01
- 306 Brentwood Coaches (8/96); Dons, Dunmow (9/99) c2004flickr link 306]w/d 2006 and for scrap
- 307-309 Thornes, Bubwith (8/96) w/d c2004 (307/8), c2007 (309) all scrapped
- 311/312 w/d by First Western National (ex Red Bus) 7/01 (311), 10/00 (312). 312 used as a store by Western National Preservation group but scrapped 3/08. 311 scrapped 2001 [flickr: 312 with Red Bus]
- 313 Wilson, Carnwath (4/96) and scrapped after low bridge accident 3/97
- 314 exported to Saudi Arabia 7/93
- 315 Philips, Penrhiwceiber 3/97, Shamrock, Pontypridd 9/97, scrapped 4/00
- 316 stripped for spares by Eastbourne Buses 12/96
- 317/9/21 scrap from North Birmingham 11/04 (317), 2/04 (319) and 2006 (321)
- 318/20 to Trailways, Sutton Coldfield (3/05 and 8/03 resp), 318 for spares, 320 for service. Both scrapped in 2007 [Flickr: 320 with Trailways]
336, 346-349 went to Ayrways of Ayr in August 2003 and went for scrap after a few years on school services. 337 was preserved initially in Kent and later in Blackpool but was broken up in 2008. Sister 334 is the sole survivor of this batch with LTT.
350 as Streetscene Permanent Way Bus |
The ‘final 15’ had a more varied afterlife:
- 350 became a ‘PW Bus’ with Blackpool Council Streetscene in 2006
- 351 was used for spares by local preservationists and was stored at LTT’s depot and was later scrapped
- 352/60/3 were broken up at Inglemere Metals in Blackpool, 355/9 went to Partons of Barnsley
- 353 was preserved by Chesterfield 123 Group and is restored in the final livery
- 354/7/61 went to Scotbus, Inverness in November 2006 and they remain in use there.
- 356 became a playbus in the South West
- 358 was bought by LTT for spares, with sister 362 saved for preservation
- 364 is still with BTS.
Ex Fylde 453 in its later guise with Mac Tours in Edinburgh during 2001 (James Millington) |
470/8 went for use as a playbuses but only 478 survives (at Haynes Motor Museum, Sparkford). 472 saw non psv use in the Manchester area and 475 became a trainer in Dundee – both are now scrapped. 474 became a mobile café in Blackburn but is now stored unused with the same owner.
482 ran with A Jays Dance troupe from 2000 to 2006, 489/92 were used as PW Buses from 2000 to 2002 and 2006 resp, the former spending some time at Whyndyke Farms in Blackpool before scrapping. 495 went to EST, South Wales for spares and 496 was preserved locally from 2001-2010 and it is now at Whyndyke Farm.
Current survivors are thus:
334/58/62 LTT, Preserved (358 spares)
350 Blackpool Council
353 Chesterfield 123 Group
354/7/61 Scotbus, Inverness [flickr 354 at Scotbus]
356 Playbus [flickr link]
364 Blackpool Transport
444 Irlam Royalettes Dance Troupe
445 Preserved
458 LTT Preserved
467 Playbus (Pilot Boat Inn on Anglesea)
468 Jersey (commentary box)
471/9 LTT, Preserved
474 Bedford, Blackburn (disused mobile kitchen)
478 Haynes Motor Museum, Sparkford (playbus) [flickr: 478 at Haynes]
496 Whyndyke Farm, Blackpool
Also 452 and 453 may survive in France and USA respectively
In so many ways, 'the last' 364 towards the end of its long career in April 2008. |
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